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gks
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| aramis wrote: | | gks wrote: | | aramis wrote: | | gks wrote: | No doubt the ramp will increase/ unlock the Zest prices... just question of %...
E.g. what will happen to Riana Green subsales demand if SHC close the Sony Link Road?
Tamarind prices increased from RM280k to 340k after Sentul Link is opened.
I'm sure cheras & Loke Yew properties prices will trending up once the massive interchange and road improvement completed.
What will happen to Setia Alam IF SPSetia not bother to build the dedicate flyover and access from NKVE from its own fund?  |
too many people expected too much. I always expect the worst and hope for the best.
As long as physically not there, to me, it will not be there.
So all those talk about LRT, to me colder than water.  |
boss, put in a simply sentence, if without the sales pitch of potential of lrt and ramp, will you buy zest last year? |
Well, to be frank, I didnt know about the Ramp and LRT before I went to their sales office, which I am already 80% convinced which I will buy already.....I bought it before I came back to this forum, so I didnt really read anything about it.... 
I was about to book a unit in Atmosfera.... |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| aramis wrote: | too many people expected too much. I always expect the worst and hope for the best.
As long as physically not there, to me, it will not be there.
So all those talk about LRT, to me colder than water. |
Same2 
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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| eugene_jk wrote: | I was told about the ramp during booking... LRT was the later news after that.. if it comes, it will be a bonus 
Zest was the lowest price interms of psft against other nearby development about 1.5 years ago... |
we r in the same boat... 
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| aramis wrote: | | eugene_jk wrote: | I was told about the ramp during booking... LRT was the later news after that.. if it comes, it will be a bonus
Zest was the lowest price interms of psft against other nearby development about 1.5 years ago... |
we r in the same boat... |
The ramp....quite confident that TT will build it
I just hope for one thing from TT..
Please don't repeat the quality like Heron.
Sorry to sound pessimistic.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| aramis wrote: | | eugene_jk wrote: | I was told about the ramp during booking... LRT was the later news after that.. if it comes, it will be a bonus
Zest was the lowest price interms of psft against other nearby development about 1.5 years ago... |
we r in the same boat... |
Luckily the LRT was announced much later... if not, dun think can get at RM210 psft... imagine the last few units were sold at >RM300 psft after the LRT news was announced.
Cannot deny some of the purchasers of later phase were pulled by the LRT factor..
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| eugene_jk wrote: | | aramis wrote: | | eugene_jk wrote: | I was told about the ramp during booking... LRT was the later news after that.. if it comes, it will be a bonus
Zest was the lowest price interms of psft against other nearby development about 1.5 years ago... |
we r in the same boat... |
Luckily the LRT was announced much later... if not, dun think can get at RM210 psft... imagine the last few units were sold at >RM300 psft after the LRT news was announced.
Cannot deny some of the purchasers of later phase were pulled by the LRT factor.. |
I thought sales from TZ has been telling about the LRT since they started selling block C? I was personally told about the LRT passing by and a station infront of TZ.
Verbally and they put the LRT photo in their earlier brochure.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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| eugene_jk wrote: | | aramis wrote: | | eugene_jk wrote: | I was told about the ramp during booking... LRT was the later news after that.. if it comes, it will be a bonus
Zest was the lowest price interms of psft against other nearby development about 1.5 years ago... |
we r in the same boat... |
Luckily the LRT was announced much later... if not, dun think can get at RM210 psft... imagine the last few units were sold at >RM300 psft after the LRT news was announced.
Cannot deny some of the purchasers of later phase were pulled by the LRT factor.. |
The lrt sales pitch complete with proposed station location, already at sales offices since the soft launch. How to say that the buyers are not pulled by this LRT factor? i'm not answering on behalf of the buyers but to the certain extend, i'm sure those who place booking are influenced by this factor.
The only different was at RM210psf, the purchasers are buying on the prospect but those buyers at >RM300psf were buying on the announcement.
I'm sure if you look back at so many pages of The Zest a lot of forumners/ buyers are bullish about this LRT and ramp. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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| eugene_jk wrote: | I was told about the ramp during booking... LRT was the later news after that.. if it comes, it will be a bonus
Zest was the lowest price interms of psft against other nearby development about 1.5 years ago... |
Em.. during the soft launch of Zest, mind to share what are other developments psf wise in Puchong and Bandar Kinrara that is more expensive except saving for SW?
I didn't follow the Zest thread closely but If i didn't recall wrongly, Atmosphere and Zen are priced competitively with Zest however Zest has trumph card in the Ramp and LRT where else the other two developments have comprehensive facilities.
So tell me, are the buyers really not put the lrt & ramp as a factor when buy Zest? |
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eugene_jk
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:11 pm Post subject: |
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| abc wrote: | | eugene_jk wrote: | | aramis wrote: | | eugene_jk wrote: | I was told about the ramp during booking... LRT was the later news after that.. if it comes, it will be a bonus
Zest was the lowest price interms of psft against other nearby development about 1.5 years ago... |
we r in the same boat... |
Luckily the LRT was announced much later... if not, dun think can get at RM210 psft... imagine the last few units were sold at >RM300 psft after the LRT news was announced.
Cannot deny some of the purchasers of later phase were pulled by the LRT factor.. |
I thought sales from TZ has been telling about the LRT since they started selling block C? I was personally told about the LRT passing by and a station infront of TZ.
Verbally and they put the LRT photo in their earlier brochure. |
Bcos I was one of the super early (December 2008), about the 20th buyer for Zest, bfore type 12 of block C kena sapu (I sapu one mah ) .. this thread was not even started yet, tats was how early ...
That time the LRT selling point was the Giant Kinrara one... quite some distance away leh.... No one know there is another one propose near Hap Seng star
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eugene_jk
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:13 pm Post subject: |
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| gks wrote: | | eugene_jk wrote: | I was told about the ramp during booking... LRT was the later news after that.. if it comes, it will be a bonus
Zest was the lowest price interms of psft against other nearby development about 1.5 years ago... |
Em.. during the soft launch of Zest, mind to share what are other developments psf wise in Puchong and Bandar Kinrara that is more expensive except saving for SW?
I didn't follow the Zest thread closely but If i didn't recall wrongly, Atmosphere and Zen are priced competitively with Zest however Zest has trumph card in the Ramp and LRT where else the other two developments have comprehensive facilities.
So tell me, are the buyers really not put the lrt & ramp as a factor when buy Zest? |
Long history... Atmosfera and Zen definately more expensive than Zest by sqft... u hav to dig out other threads to find out
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Bcos I was one of the super early (December 2007), about the 20th buyer for Zest, bfore type 12 of block C kena sapu (I sapu one mah ) .. this thread was not even started yet, tats was how early ...
That time the LRT selling point was the Giant Kinrara one... quite some distance away leh.... No one know there is another one propose near Hap Seng star |
Boss, when the time i visited during end of January, it's just a <15% booked i think for block C. So, tell me what are the factor(s) that between February until May.2009 that make Zest almost sold out?
Don't get me wrong. i definitely hope for ramp and lrt station is built for BK/ Zest. I'm only amuse only now the effect of lrt station and the ramp for the Zest is played down.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| eugene_jk wrote: |
Bcos I was one of the super early (December 2007), about the 20th buyer for Zest, bfore type 12 of block C kena sapu (I sapu one mah ) .. this thread was not even started yet, tats was how early ...
That time the LRT selling point was the Giant Kinrara one... quite some distance away leh.... No one know there is another one propose near Hap Seng star |
ok ok .. Frankly, LRT factor attracted me as well.. I think one of the reason some ppl didn't sapu was because of the bad economy early 2009 and the US housing bubble made public around that time. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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| gks wrote: | | eugene_jk wrote: | I was told about the ramp during booking... LRT was the later news after that.. if it comes, it will be a bonus
Zest was the lowest price interms of psft against other nearby development about 1.5 years ago... |
Em.. during the soft launch of Zest, mind to share what are other developments psf wise in Puchong and Bandar Kinrara that is more expensive except saving for SW?
I didn't follow the Zest thread closely but If i didn't recall wrongly, Atmosphere and Zen are priced competitively with Zest however Zest has trumph card in the Ramp and LRT where else the other two developments have comprehensive facilities.
So tell me, are the buyers really not put the lrt & ramp as a factor when buy Zest? |
I was searching to buy a highrise at Puchong that time and Zen was out , coz next to kampung and near cemetary..
Atmosfera was removed from my list when I say how bad the access was and also potentially there will more > 1000 units at the top of the hill and cars being parked rampantly will be the biggest issue, and access to commercial also damn jialat, so left Zest. And this was the main pulling point for me. I was also told by the SA that Ramp and LRT will be there when I went to their sales office, so this remove my last 20% of my uncertaintly. So, yes, in a way, the Ramp and LRT actually seal the deal but with 80% certainty of buying into the project, even without the ramp and LRT, i would have sign on the dotted line also.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| gks wrote: | | eugene_jk wrote: |
Bcos I was one of the super early (December 2007), about the 20th buyer for Zest, bfore type 12 of block C kena sapu (I sapu one mah ) .. this thread was not even started yet, tats was how early ...
That time the LRT selling point was the Giant Kinrara one... quite some distance away leh.... No one know there is another one propose near Hap Seng star |
Boss, when the time i visited during end of January, it's just a <15% booked i think. So, tell me what are the factor(s) that between February until May.2009 that make Zest almost sold out? |
Factor = Publicity... No one knows Zest existance until TT make some news paper adverts over CNY and "free marketing agent" like us discussing in forums... (TT ppl do actually observe wat we type in forums )... Also Iproperty Expo in Feb 2009 <- still remember
manage to dug up the pricing... prices are "starting from"
Zen: RM238 psft
Atmosfera: RM 216 psft
Zest: RM200 psft
Setia Walk: RM320 psft
Type error.. I book in Dec 2008 not 07 soli
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Bcos I was one of the super early (December 2008), about the 20th buyer for Zest, bfore type 12 of block C kena sapu (I sapu one mah ) .. this thread was not even started yet, tats was how early ...
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Boss, being the super early buyer, I am sure you know someone from TT or some connection somewhere...Can share if you have any update about TT next project??
I heard is near 2 LRT stations and between Bukit OUG and bukit jalil...near green avenue apartments and the link business centre. (I am not sure about the exact location, just based on guessing).. |
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eugene_jk
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| abc wrote: | | eugene_jk wrote: |
Bcos I was one of the super early (December 2008), about the 20th buyer for Zest, bfore type 12 of block C kena sapu (I sapu one mah ) .. this thread was not even started yet, tats was how early ...
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Boss, being the super early buyer, I am sure you know someone from TT or some connection somewhere...Can share if you have any update about TT next project??
I heard is near 2 LRT stations and between Bukit OUG and bukit jalil...near green avenue apartments and the link business centre. (I am not sure about the exact location, just based on guessing).. |
my early source.. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/870810 some ppl earlier than me
I got no Source from TT la.. Tomato sause got la
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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aiyaa ramp and lrt will boost the price .. as simple as that ..
if you dont expect ramp and lrt when u first bought it, doesn't mean others are not expecting it .. as mentioned, the price was increased partly due to these two factors also ...
put it this way, if developer didnt want to build the ramp as promised then what more you can expect they can deliver your house in good condition ..
so i think the ramp is important for zest and BK9 fellows .. in fact to all puchongites and jalilians ..  |
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Someone raise about the cemetery & crematorium issues in lowyat.net. The C&C along the bukit jalil hingway near police temporary detention.
Anyone knows the latest updates? |
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| abc wrote: | Someone raise about the cemetery & crematorium issues in lowyat.net. The C&C along the bukit jalil hingway near police temporary detention.
Anyone knows the latest updates? |
Im getting  hearing this again and again...
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u worry about low cost flats better  |
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aramis
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| Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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already vested, whats the point of worrying?
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| aramis wrote: | already vested, whats the point of worrying?
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True also ... better think about the next project.. |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:16 pm Post subject: Buy the zest |
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| those who want to let go the zest, pls email to me at yang97@hotmail.com |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:06 pm Post subject: Re: Buy the zest |
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agent? negotiator or genuine buyer?
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| Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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400k mid floor corner unit facing pool (and North) Blk B. These units also have the biggest build-up. No direct morning sun from the side as it is being block by Blk A.
any takers?
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